We love the guys in for King & Country and their new song “Joy,” so it was great to talk with them about the song, the difference between joy and happiness, and how to choose joy even when the news is bad or when personal tragedy strikes.

It was great to talk with the guys in @4kingandcountry about their song “Joy” and how to choose joy even when the news is bad or when personal tragedy strikes.#wayfm #wallyshow

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In case you missed it, we also had Joel’s and Luke’s wives in to talk about what they’re learning in marriage and what it was like to work together on their song Pioneers.